Freelander 1

[raitojas]

Tervitusi kõigile
Ma täitsa hädas oma Inglise Huumoriga.
Masinat soetades ei olnud all kardaani (muidugi ise täitsa loll), jutt oli selline et kardaanipukid läbi, uued olid ilusti karbiga kaasas, ei viitsinud alguses sellega tegeleda.
Nüüd siis juba mõnusalt porine ja loodetavalt varsti ka lumine, tekkis asja vastu huvi, vahetasin pukid ära ja kardaan alla.
Tulemus oli peris kohutav üle 50km/h sõites on hull vibra ja keerates hakkab nagu pooma vms.
Selle keeramise kohapealt sain aru et asi võib olla kinni jäänud viskosiduris, kuidas seda kontrollida ja kas seda kuidagi ravitseda kah võimalik on?
Küsimus jäi veel õhku vibra koha pealt, et see viskosidur ju ei saa seda ometi teha kui ta on kahe puki vahel ja nii lühikese maa peal.
Silmaga kardaanil vigastusi ei esine ja ristid tunduvad ok olevat.
Kuigi käigukasti poolsel otsal on küll tugevamat sorti loks, see ei ole rist vaid tundub minu mite spetsialiseerunud silma jaoks miskit muud olevad.
Tekkis küsimus kas see ots kah vahetatav on?


Pikk jutt, loodan et ei saanud väga segane.
Ehk on kellelgi kokkupuudet olnud nende viguritega.

Kui kellegil töötavat viskot pakkuda on või seda kardaani esimest otsa siis võib ka julgelt pakkuda.

Poleks elusees arvanud et selle masinaga nii palju aega garaažis aga veeta saab:D

[landy]

"Õnnesoovid" müüja on sulle tünga teinud!

Anatud viksosidur ei ole remonditav, kuid on vahetatav.

[raitojas]

"Õnnespoovid" müüja on sulle tünga teinud!

Anatud viksosidur ei ole remonditav, kuid on vahetatav.

Ega seda vist kasutatud kujul pole mõtet osta?

Tead äkki hinda ja võimalusi seda soetada!

[landy]

Panin esilagse hinnainfo privaatsõnumisse.
Pruugitu ostmine on ilmselge raha põletamine. Tegu ikkagi kuluosaga.

Inimesed, miks te enne auto ostu ei lase oma masinate pädevas töökojas ostu eelset ülevaatust teha. Maksab see ca 30 EUR ja hoiab edaspidi kokku tuhandeid eursoid "ootamatuid" kulusid.

[raitojas]

Minu oma läks vahetusvariandiga 1:1 le VW Passati 2,5 v6 dislaga, ei olnud just erileine pärl, nii et arvestades seda jama ikkagi ei kahetse.

[inseneer]

Kindlasti ei ole see probleem ainult kardaanis. Väga, väga suure tõenäolisusega on tegemist vahekasti rikkega. Piilu vahekasti õli ja siis sa näed metalli seal sees...

[landy]

Inseneeri poolt viidatud vahekasti rike on ka väga tõenäoline ja see on juba tõsiselt kulukas ja ebamugav viga. Tehas pole sellel sõlme remontimist üldse ette näinud.

[raitojas]

kasutatuid kaste kah liigub?

[inseneer]

kasutatuid kaste kah liigub?

Jah, korras ja kontrollitud kast maksab 1000.- raha.

[landy]

Uus OEM osa on umbes poole kallim.

[raitojas]

Oskate mitte asjatundjale lühidalt seletada mis selle kastiga siis juhtub, veab edasi ju küll?
Ja mida head see viskosidur üldse teeb?

[landy]

Viskosidur jagab jüudu eis ja tagsilla vahel. Vahekst on lihlst nõrga konstruktsiooniga. Õigemini polegi see tavaline vahekst. pigem esidiffer mis jagab jõudu ka tagsillale.

Veidi kodust lugemist:

Gearbox & drivetrain problems
• Total manual gearbox failure is common. The common symptoms
are an excessively notchy gearchange, a noisy gearbox and/or oil
leaks.
• Clutches are prone to severe wear if the vehicle has been used for
towing, and they can be expensive to replace. Clutch master and
slave cylinders are a common failure item, too, along with the wimpy
bracket that the slave is mounted on.
• The Steptronic automatic gearbox gives major grief. Total failure
anytime from 60,000km is commonplace. This gearbox wasn’t a rock
of stability to start with, and things haven’t improved with age. Using
one of these transmissions for significant amounts of towing all but
guarantees expensive failure (check for scratches on the towball). The
transmission fluid requires replacement every 40,000km, and this
job is by no means as easy as it sounds. Jatco, the company that built
the transmission, advises that it’s critical that the correct amount of
the correct fluid is added. The problem is, the gearbox fluid level
needs to be checked at the correct temperature, and this requires
diagnostic equipment that most owners and some garages don’t have.
The Freelander Jatco transmission requires different transmission
fluid (LRN-402) to other Land Rover vehicles, and using the wrong
fluid can harm the transmission. As if that wasn’t bad enough, the
transfer case is cooled via an oil cooler hooked up to the rest of the
cooling system.When the coolant fluid is changed, it’s easy for air
locks to form in the thin pipes linking the oil cooler to the main radiator.
There are bleed nipples for the oil cooler, but they are a hassle
to locate and operate. Many garages don’t know they exist. If bubbles
block the oil cooler, the transfer case, transmission and sometimes
the engine itself can overheat, with disastrous consequences. Last,
but not least: the gearchange solenoids are fairly fragile and die quite
young. Usually 3rd, 4th and 5th go first. Changing them is neither
easy nor cheap.
• The viscous coupling (fitted inline with the rear driveshaft) often
dies young. It’s expensive of course, but if not replaced in time it
trashes the transfer case and/or rear differential.
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The viscous coupling hanger bearings almost invariably need replacing
at the same time. The easiest test of the viscous coupling is to
drive the vehicle forward at a low speed and turn the steering wheel
from lock to lock. A failed viscous coupling will cause the transmission
to wind up, which has the effect of gently bringing the vehicle
to a halt as if the handbrake had been lightly applied. The tyres will
often show signs of unusual wear as well. If there’s the slightest doubt
about the viscous coupling, it must be replaced, or the resultant
damage will be horrific:
• The transfer case – called the Intermediate Reduction Drive (IRD)
on the Freelander – is a common failure point. The problem is usually
caused by seizure of the viscous coupling unit on the driveshaft.
This causes the transmission to wind up, and the IRD is the part
that breaks first. The IRD is very expensive to replace and secondhand
versions are a poor option. If the IRD is fitted without replacing
the seized viscous coupling, then the IRD will re-fail within
a short time. The oil in the IRD needs replacing roughly every
20,000km, and failure to change the oil will wreck the unit. Whining
is a sure sign of impending doom. However, a vibration from the
transmission at speed may simply be a broken upper support bracket
at the transfer case.
• The rear differential commonly fails, at great expense. The symptom
is a whining or rumbling from the rear while driving. Differential
failure may also be caused by a seizure of the viscous coupling
unit on the driveshaft. There are two rear differentials fitted to the
Freelander: the earlier version is the worst. After repeated failures a
stronger replacement was fitted. However, the later differential is still
prone to failure. As with the transfer case, if the seized viscous coupling
is not replaced, the problem will recur. The oil in the differential
needs replacing roughly every 20,000km, and failure to change
the oil will wreck the unit. There’s no drain plug, so the backing
plate must be removed or the oil sucked out through the filler plug.
• Driveshaft bearings can fail at very low mileages. Noise from the
driveshafts may also be worn hanger support bearings.
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• Hill descent control dies young on many versions. This problem
is often caused by a failure of the ABS unit (see brake and safety problems).
• Freelanders have a heavy appetite for front tyres, due to the poor
design of the four-wheel drive system. Later models are better, but
only by comparison.
Steering & suspension problems
• Dysfunctional power steering is common. The power steering reservoir
tends to leak from the bottom hose. This is a hassly job due to
access problems.The steering pump also dies. Please note that there
are multiple versions of the Freelander steering pump, and they’re
generally not interchangeable. The steering rack itself is also fairly
prone to problems, and they’re not always obvious. Even if the rack
doesn’t leak a drop, the torque collar sometimes comes adrift inside
and the rack begins to behave erratically. You’re likely to get heavy
steering at parking and overly light steering at speed. There may also
be a screech as you turn in one direction. Complete rack replacement
is the only option. Please note that there are also several different versions
of the Freelander steering rack, and they’re generally not interchangeable.
However, a slight noise when turning at low speeds may
be simply caused by vibration of the power steering pipes.
• Suspension damage is common if the vehicle has been used on
rough roads or offroad.
• Typical front suspension failure points are the lower arm bushes,
anti-roll bar link arms and mounting bushes, steering rack ends and
struts.
• Typical rear suspension failure points are the rear trailing arm bushes,
rear inner & outer lower link bushes, rear adjusting link bushes,
together with the rear shock absorbers. A knocking from the back of
the vehicle is likely to be broken differential mounts.
• Unevenly worn or scrubbed tyres suggests that the rear driveshaft
viscous coupling is dead. Viscous coupling failure will wreck large
parts of the drivetrain (see drivetrain problems above).
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• Road noise is often the result of suspension bush wear. Low profile
tyres also compromise the ride quality and produce noise on rough
road surfaces. However, the problem may also be worn wheel bearings:
• Wheel bearings are frequently worn out and it’s not always obvious
when you jack up the wheel and spin or wobble it. If in doubt, you
need to jack up all four wheels at once and get someone to start the
engine and run through the gears while you crouch near each wheel
in turn. Worn wheel bearings can then be easily heard. However, it’s
important that the driver doesn’t use the brakes to slow the wheels
down after the test is done, or it may confuse the ABS system and
cause error messages to be displayed. Just let the wheels spin to a
halt on their own. It’s also worth noting that it’s sometimes hard to
distinguish between wheel bearing noise and driveshaft noise. Moreover,
both the wheel and driveshaft bearings are often worn out at
the same time.
• On early models, a creak from the rear end while cornering at slow
speeds means the rear subframe is loose in its mountings. This problem
was the subject of a recall (see below), which means it’s Land
Rover’s problem, not yours. Some garages were unaware of the recall
and simply welded the rear subframe in place, which is effective, but
not an ideal solution.

[raitojas]

Kuidas seda vahekasti korrasolekut või, mitte korrasolekut kontrollida saab?
See masin on niisamagi talvel üsna ebamugav, rääkimata selle masinaga ainult esiveoga maakohas sõites, kus teehooldus on olematu.

[lrfreelander]

to raitojas, vaata vest leiad siit midagi sobilikku. http://www.landroverclub.ee/foorum/viewtopic.php?t=4505